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GUM 重要的問題最好自己去魚護署
Cozzy 發表於 2011-3-25 23:37


魚護署D x柴,比雀店買和比進口D未生齊毛和吾識自己食野的鸚鵡(Unweaned Parrots)都視若無睹,
我弋日真係想打電話和Send email去問吓D x柴點做野

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二級三級管唔倒,點管一級!

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很多國家祗有動物園和用作保育用途才獲批准!

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The Sale of Unweaned Birds

It is quite common to find unweaned baby parrots for sale in pet stores. This is unfortunate because the average pet store employee or customer has no idea how complicated and demanding the handraising process is (many people think "handfeeding" is feeding peanuts "by hand" through the bars of the cage!). The result is oftentimes a dead baby parrot and an upset customer.

In the wild, parrots stay with their parents for months, or even years. During this time, they are provided with food until they are eventually weaned and able to eat solid food. The parents also spend these months teaching their chicks how to act like parrots.

In the breeding businesses that supply pet stores ("bird mills"), parrots are usually taken away from their parents before they hatch. Sometimes the breeders handraise the baby parrots themselves, using special supplies and techniques until the birds are weaned. Most professional breeders, however, sell their baby parrots unweaned, expecting the buyer, or pet store employees, to continue the handfeeding process.

Why Stores Say We Should Buy Unweaned Parrots..

The claim is that hand feeding, or "artificially rearing", parrots results in a closer bond between bird and owner. But according to a new study conducted at the University of California, Davis, parrot chicks raised by their parents and handled by humans as little as 15 minutes a day became perfectly tame, well-bonded parrots.

Anyone who has rescued an adult parrot from a humane society or rescue group can also attest to the fact that, with proper care, it is entirely possible to establish a bond with a fully grown parrot - handfed or not.

The Truth?

Handfeeding is very time consuming (very young parrots must be fed as many as six times per day). This leads one to wonder if breeders aren't just dumping the responsibility on pet store employees and unsuspecting customers.

There are also some in the bird industry that perpetuate the "hand-fed" myth in order to facilitate the production breeding of parrots (Click Here For More Info on Bird Mills). Separating young birds from their parents increases production by encouraging the adult birds to produce more babies.

The Dangers of Handfeeding

Artificial rearing is not only unnecessary, but also potentially dangerous if done by a novice (even very experienced breeders sometimes run into these problems):


Crop Burn - Improperly heated formula can scald a chick’s crop and actually burn right through the esophagus and the crop, making a fistula. This is usually fatal, but if the burned area is small, the dead crop area is cut out and stitched back together, leaving a smaller but functional crop. More severe burns are treated by implanting a feeding tube in the crop. These burns open the door for serious bacterial and fungal infections.
Sour Crop - Formula has to be the correct temperature in order to be digested. If formula is too cold, the chick's crop doesn't empty and the formula left inside turns sour, leading to infection. When experienced handfeeders encounter this problem, they immediately empty the crop, something an inexperienced person simply cannot do.

(The issue of sour crop comes up quite often with cockatiels; it is not any easier handfeeding smaller parrots.)

Starvation - A healthy chick can quickly starve to death if a novice handfeeder doesn’t realize the amount of food or the number of feeding times required. Chicks that aren't receiving enough handfeeding formula will refuse to eat weaning foods even though they are very hungry.

It is critical that the chick eat enough to support growth and sustain life. Chicks have to be weighed on a daily basis, and if they lose any weight, immediate action has to be taken.

Aspiration – Formula must be placed in the right side of the chick’s mouth or it could be aspirated, leading to often-fatal aspiration pneumonia.

Overfeeding – Older chicks will usually back away when they are full, but newly hatched babies will not be able to do so. Overfed chicks may vomit excess formula or their crops may become impacted, requiring the assistance of an avian veterinarian.

Beak Deformities can be caused by faulty equipment or untrained hands.

Disease - Babies don't have fully functioning immune systems; everything that touches or is in contact with a baby (feeding supplies, etc.) must be clean and sanitized. Otherwise diseases such as Polyomavirus (a highly infectious, often-deadly virus) will present themselves.

Behavior Problems - Both in the wild and in captivity, parrots actively parent their offspring. Birds who are artificially reared are more likely to develop behavioral problems such as excessive screaming, feather plucking, self-mutilation, and aggression. Many hand-reared birds also show abnormal sexual behavior and aggression towards humans.



Forced Weaning
Forced weaning is refusing to feed a begging chick with the assumption that it will eat when it gets hungry enough. Unfortunately, baby parrots just won't eat until they are ready and an unweaned chick will starve to death before it will eat solid food. Forced weaning can also result in permanent behavior problems such as rigid eating habits, nervousness, and chronic begging.

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答案就係,只要隻雀係合法入口
有入口紙副本就可以
cheerios 發表於 2011-3-26 01:12



(烏龍署)烏烏龍龍咁做嘢,外行管內行

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我以前都以為係,我上年剷上漁農自然護理署長沙灣總部瀕危物種牌照科問,玩左一輪,佢哋係電腦pulled左張licence出嚟,即係張入口紙副本(有CITIES 印章),多次confirmed係唔需要管有證。
cheerios 發表於 2011-3-26 01:31



呢D係我 cites certificate,有3個不同國家!

附件: 您需要登錄才可以下載或查看附件。沒有帳號?註冊

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cozzy你張点架?

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cites certificate???無架WOW...
Cozzy 發表於 2011-3-26 01:52


碌葛

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只係係合法的店買的....
Cozzy 發表於 2011-3-26 01:57



我如道是在BII鸚鵡店買,是否BII脚圈?

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我呢邊cites appendix 1 certificate 都分幾種:動物園,保育,研宄,商業買賣 ,繁殖力用徙,進出口,轉口,
沒有商業買賣証明書,買賣双方都有罪
私人飼養 和免費送給人是不雖要証明書,要立據和冇錢銀交易,
如果私人飼養想要出賣或商業買賣,你要隻雀身份証明,從何而來,如果沒有就要由有關部問d人來做決定,所以很多人都不申請,
買和申請之前你要考慮你隻雀是否合法還是非法買來的,

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我都死左大半心;
不過估唔到係雀店到看見的"BII"一級鸚鵡都唔能夠合法管有;
fascinator 發表於 2011-3-27 21:08


如果是BII雀應該有進出口証明書,以我所知 BII 是有在 http://www.cites.org/ 註冊繁殖塲!

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本帖最後由 Amazonshan 於 2011-3-27 22:00 編輯

買賣一級雀烏, 無論是生~死~蛋~羽毛,標本都要一級証明書!

制成標本還要獸醫証明死因!

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呢個是 BII註冊No (A-PH-501)

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我先前都以為係; 聽聞BII可以出到CITES 1d 証; 可以作商業買賣; 點知店員話它是用CITE入口; 不會提供文件用作申請管有証; 隻鸚鵡是BII的; 有BII腳環;
其實決定左八八九九; 好彩比錢前問清楚!
fascinator 發表於 2011-3-27 22:13

我1c,1d,都有,以前有過3張1U
1c 是正確 Cites Certificate

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我先前都以為係; 聽聞BII可以出到CITES 1d 証; 可以作商業買賣; 點知店員話它是用CITES 1c 入口; 不會提供文件用作申請管有証; 隻鸚鵡是BII的; 有BII腳環;
其實決定左八八九九; 好彩比錢前問清楚!
fascinator 發表於 2011-3-27 22:13

如果隻雀入口是去繁殖塲或在出口的話,張(cites certificate) 用1d,
當BII申請(cites certificate) BII 會在 Source弋欄寫1d
如果隻雀入口是用作私人寵物,在 Source弋欄寫1C
1C.都可以商業買賣和繁殖,所以1c,1d都係一樣.

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我幾年前問過啦, 佢話要有証明我對種鳥是正途入口, 生下來的小鳥先可以攞"出世紙", 鬼有咩!!
所以就是生了出來都係做黑市居民, 永遠唔見得光, 嗚呼哀哉!
veniaxinfu 發表於 2011-3-29 17:57


你問佢識吾識架,正x柴
你嘰情形,佢地是應該發2張 cites certificate你,入面會註明只可以用作繁殖,不可用作任何非法買賣,
還註明生下來的小鳥可以用作任何商業買賣.
呢D cites certificate我都有過,在Source弋欄寫(U)~source unknown(must be justified)
對雀有什么記號,例如腳圈?

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我屋企對鸚鵡係我死鬼外父留比我, 我已經養左十年. 佢當年買邊有証架? 亦唔會知有此事!
現在我屋企有好多雀毛同剛生下又比我打攔咗既蛋殼, 唔知要唔要整返張証明書呢?
veniaxinfu 發表於 2011-3-29 02:32


我有個西人朋友和你情形一樣,在未例入一級時巳經有擁有對雀,兩年還生下4隻,2隻巳售出比市平,佢怕去申請証書會比人攞走對雀,我同佢講這個是不會發生的,一天我去教佢怎樣申請和叫佢帶隻雀去注入晶片作記號,現在6隻DYH都有証書,點講佢英文寫知說都比我好千倍!

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